Mr. Pádraig Egan:

Deputy Browne is right when he talks about the rising costs of doing the work. The simple answer is that the Department's products, including the grant schemes, the forestry and the RUS, are not fit for purpose, because they are not meeting our costs. The costs are rising. The RUS was produced without any proper consultation. That needs to be revisited. First, we have to stop the licensing crisis and the next step is looking at this.

We never got an answer about the consultative committee. We were told that we were not on it and that was it. We were told we could have bilateral meetings. I do not know what that meant.