Jennifer Carroll MacNeill (Dún Laoghaire, Fine Gael) | Oireachtas source

One of the things we keep talking about is a new relationships and sex education programme that is very different to the one in schools. I will come back and ask Ms McDermott about that because I have only a minute left. The Department of Education is developing a new junior cycle programme based on consent. That is fine except nobody has yet seen it. What really needs to happen is at primary level. I was in Kilkenny the week before last talking to teachers and gardaí. They spoke about how it can be a bit difficult when the schools say they want to talk about image sharing and Coco's Law but how when the gardaí say they want to talk about it for the protection of all of the children, there is a slightly different reaction from parents. What needs to be in the programme from primary education? How do we talk about gender, consent, personhood and boundaries in an age-appropriate way? How do we make parents who might feel that this is very different comfortable? What is the right approach for the Department to take? Clearly, it is part of what we are talking about in terms of the recommendations of the citizens' assembly, but what is the right way to do that to make sure we are hitting it correctly from a gender and diversity perspective and really get this right first time? I know I am out of time. I will be happy to come back to the matter.