Mr. Robert Watt:

I think the Deputy is asking about the structures of the Sláintecare board. Mr. Reid and I chair that, with the senior teams. As I say, ultimately the extent of progress has to be judged by the delivery of actions and that is the focus. We have published a report, which we have not got to yet, that sets out significant progress. Since this was published and since the last time we met the committee, we published on two significant issues. We have spoken about the RHAs already, on which there are different views, which is good, important, welcome and the way it should be. We also published the waiting list plan, which is a very significant plan on the waiting lists. They were two outstanding issues, on which we were behind.

I am happy to be challenged in six months or a year's time and asked what I have done on this reform agenda. I am happy to be judged on the basis of what we have achieved. This report shows significant achievement in the context of an incredibly challenging time for the health service during the pandemic. I think we have shown great progress. Even in the past few months, we have made progress. Let us see in a year or 18 months' time. If the committee is not convinced that we have made progress, I think it would be legitimate to say that these governance structures are not working, the personnel are not working or whatever, and we should try something different. I am very happy to-----