Mr. Michael Ryan:

I will follow up on what Dr. Duffy said. One of the important things to remember is that the best outcomes come from a good therapeutic relationship. Some years ago, I was involved in a school where there were serious challenges and a lot of expertise was brought in but the young people would not engage with it because they did not have the requisite therapeutic relationship or trust.

What Mr. Duffy is talking about is very important, that it is everybody's responsibility, not just the counsellor but anybody who engages with young people, or any person for that matter, that they feel they are equipped to help them. There are programmes such as mental health first aid. They should be CPD requirements that everybody should look at.