Mr. Mark Smyth:

They are very similar. There are slightly different metrics with regard to the number of hours required. Overall the same amount of experience is required in the HSE criteria to work in the service. As a senior clinical psychologist I often have a counselling or educational trainee or a clinical psychologist with me. They do the same work. They provide the same public service. One gets paid and two do not. The equivalence of what they deliver to young people in mental health is equivalent but they are not treated with equivalency.