Dr. Ciaran Byrne:

I might just respond. I thank the Senator for the clarification on the appropriate assessment and moving that on. That has been in the pipeline for a while, so it is very positive to hear.

In terms of the broad piece around digital technologies, we are in the middle of kind of a retrofit revolution, but it is also a digital revolution because what we will be doing in ten years’ time in terms of building control maintenance and controls and things like that is still evolving. The idea of using an app to control one's solar panels and see and share among others is one of the technologies. There is some very good, interesting stuff around heating controls in buildings. Now, you can look at them remotely and it can help you calculate your savings and things such as that.

On savings, I was a little bit obtuse with the Deputy because it is very hard to pick a single figure. Again, what people use and how people use homes is different. There can be two people in the exact same home who use it in a different way. You can see, for example, from solar panels, very quickly with those types of apps how much energy you are getting from that source, which can be very valuable. That space is something we are working toward in the future. When one thinks about the iPhone, for example, which was only launched in 2007, and where it has come to now in 2022, it must be asked what we will be doing in 2030. It is a very important space to be in.