Dr. Richard Browne:

There were two very distinct questions there but there is a common theme to them. It is really important to note that entities are responsible for their own security, so the HSE and hospitals are responsible for and own their own security risk. We can say with certainty, however, that the HSE has taken very significant measures to defend and to harden its own systems and to identify issues as they arise. Without going into any great detail, incidents happen all the time. For the very most part, they are dealt with long before they get to the point of last May's incident. We see incidents happen very regularly. It is not that we have an incident once every six months; we have one several times a day. Most of them, however, are dealt with long before they ever eventuate to that point. This goes to the Deputy's other point as to what we would do if we were to have an incident. We have incidents all the time. The question is what we do. The-----