Mr. John Melvin:

There appears to be a concern that the addition of additional potential supply infrastructure for gas will lead, therefore, to an increased usage or throughput of gas. If a factory needs two machines to make X widgets, and it buys a third machine so that it can continue to make widgets, it does not make more widgets. There is nothing necessarily contradictory in saying that we see a need for more infrastructure or more diverse infrastructure to allow continuity of supply of gas. There is nothing in this that says we, therefore, must use more gas. There is nothing in saying that we need a more diverse and secure supply of gas that will necessarily lead to more use. Everything in the Climate Action Plan 2021 states that we will reach 80% renewables by 2030. The steps in that are designed to reduce the volume of fossil fuel generation. By 2030, when we reach the 80% target, there will still be 20% use of fossil fuels. By 2050, it will be net zero. There appears to be a concern that investing in some way or seeking to have greater security of supply when it comes to gas will necessarily mean greater throughput of gas. The entirety of the climate action plan is driving towards reduced consumption of fossil fuels. It states very clearly that we need to do all the things we can to reduce the consumption of fossil fuels. I want to address the concern that if additional infrastructure is considered necessary to ensure we can continue to supply the fossil fuels we will need over the next period, it does not necessarily drive the-----