Seán Sherlock (Cork East, Labour) | Oireachtas source

I appreciate that. We are all talking the language of the just transition but nobody has been able to identify what that means in real terms. Dr. Byrne talked about "energy poor", but that does not necessarily mean income poor. A distinction has to be made here. I could be living in a well-appointed, high-value house in south Dublin, for instance - I do not mean to unfairly target south Dublin or characterise it in a particular way - and it could be worth up to €1 million, but it could be energy poor. Yet, the income coming into the house might a multiple figure of what might be coming into a typical 1970s bungalow in rural north Cork, for instance. In the income levels there could be a massive disparity. I am seeking an understanding from SEAI on whether or not Government policy is being directed to ensure that SEAI targets fuel-impoverished or energy-impoverished homes, but also households where the income levels are much lower. That is the key.