Mr. Paul Jackman:

In our ten-year transport submission there is a list of low-hanging fruit one of which is the one mentioned by the Deputy there. There are 11 tolls in Ireland. Only one is express, on the M50. The best, or worst, example is the port tunnel, through which 7,000 to 9,000 vehicles go every day. Each is forced to stop. International studies show that 1.5 l of fuel is wasted there. It just goes on. They reduced 42 tonnes on 5 axles back to 40 tonnes and the consequence of that is an additional 6 million km being undertaken to collect our milk. The industry is being hammered and there is not enough engagement. On CNG or any other alternative fuels, there is an ideological barrier with supporting diesel because of the make-up of the Government and our targets. However, if you look at the EU, last year 96% of all HGVs sold in the EU were diesel. That tells you everything that you need to know. That is in a market where they have other options. In Ireland we do not and 98% of the goods-----