Shane Cassells (Fianna Fail) | Oireachtas source

Exactly. Are Ms Craig and Ms Curtis fearful, from a public perception point of view, about the value the public places on public service journalism? This will ultimately come down to charging the public and getting their buy-in for this. What value do they place on public service journalism because there is ultimately a cost associated with that? We see the massive evasion rates. There could be €40 million in evasion rates for the licence fee. Do our guests believe there is a diminishing value placed by the public on our public service journalism in the broadcasting sphere?