Ms Celene Craig:

Perhaps I could elaborate a little bit more on what Ms Curtis has said. We are engaging very actively with the Minister and her officials in the Department on some of these very foundational pieces. We are collaborating strongly with them, including on matters concerning recruitment and staffing for the proposed media commission. Obviously, a consideration of part of that is the range of skills that are there.

I am mindful of the specific comments that Ms Haugen made in relation to algorithmic expertise. This has been the focus of our deliberations at European level for quite a number of years now. What Ms Haugen said is clearly the case, that it is a very highly specific area of expertise. It will be very important for the media commission going forward to understand what the algorithms are and what they do, and the impact they have on the activities on the platforms and the way they deliver content to their users. Among regulators, our own organisation and colleagues, generally we find that there is a very strong understanding of what they are and how they impact users and content users of services. There is also a very strong understanding of how and in what way algorithms might impact the activities of regulatory agencies in this field. There is certainly a lot of that, and there are other ways in which this kind of expertise can be tapped into apart from-----