Oireachtas Joint and Select Committees

Tuesday, 15 March 2022

Joint Oireachtas Committee on European Union Affairs

Ukraine's Application for Membership of the European Union: Engagement with Ambassador of Ukraine.

H.E. Ms Larysa Gerasko:

I thank the Deputy so much. It is an interesting, good and important question. What we have is for sure a hybrid form. On what Putin does, he imposed a criminal responsibility even for using words against war or supporting Ukraine, etc. He has also blocked social media for now.

On methods, Facebook is very popular in Russia and in Ukraine. For instance, there is Twitter, etc. Only YouTube is available now in Russia. As for what we Ukrainians do, first of all, the Telegram app is very popular in Russia. We use this Telegram app also, and Telegram channels, and try to spread our information through this app. What our Ukrainians do is search for places on Google Maps, for instances, the Kremlin, and put on review photos of war in Ukraine, ruins, dead people, and captured Russian military and their documents. It means that if a Russian person, who lives, for instance, in Kazan, is searching for hospital or any place, this person will find such pictures, reviews, etc., like that.

What our Ukrainians do is call to relatives in Russia because, of course, Ukraine was a part of the Soviet Union and many relatives live in Russia, etc. They try to call relatives and explain what is going on in Ukraine, and to tell the true story. Unfortunately, I have relatives in Russia. For instance, my brother sent our relative the pictures of our region - these horrible photos and videos. My brother explained what was going on and the response was that it was our Nazis - like suicide bombers.

Some of Russia's people do not want to analyse something. There is a huge problem. That is a result of a brainwashing machine and Russian propaganda. Many people are really scared to take to the street to protest. For instance, as I mentioned, the Russian side buried bodies of their soldiers in a common grave, etc., not even in Russia but in Belarus.

People in Russia, including families, never get any true information about where their sons, husbands and so on are. The main reason for that relates to the fact that if Russians receive the corpse of their relative, whether a son or a husband, they will protest. We, at least, use such means. There are certain websites and applications in Russia, such as OdnoKlassniki and VK. They are prohibited and are similar to Facebook, but Russian.

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