Ms Karen McGowan:

There is an age-old problem with overcrowding and it is not going away. We had Covid and then we had hope with the vaccination, and that curbed it, but there is no vaccination that is going to curb this overcrowding. There is hope with Sláintecare and there is a pathway to get out of this. That is how we need to retain our staff, make it more attractive and improve the conditions we have.