Mr. James Padden:

We are speaking as e-scooter operators and the committee is looking to regulate the private and rental market. Everything my colleagues said is absolutely right. The legislation that is brought forward will have to include sanctions. The committee cannot rely on e-scooter operators to take sanctions against people using private vehicles. That is where the work Bird has done with the Irish School of Excellence is really important in terms of setting the norms with young children.