Mr. Saleh Higazi:

To mark the 73rd anniversary of Nakba, we did a project that is available online. Perhaps our colleagues in Ireland can share the link to the project with members. We worked with Palestinian refugees in Lebanon, Jordan and the West Bank. It was called Seventy+ Years of Suffocation. We worked with an award-winning photographer who, along with our researchers, went to speak to Palestinian refugees in refugee camps in Lebanon, Jordan and the occupied West Bank about the 73 years and what it means to them, and about their return, their situation right now and the suffocation they feel. Suffocation is mentioned in the title of the project. It is about the sense of suffocation of being there and stuck in time and a place for 73 years. That was our last attempt to do such work since the previous reports that we have done. We also continuously work on the situation of Palestinian refugees in terms of their rights and the respect or violation of their rights in the host countries around Israel and Palestine and also elsewhere. We can share that project with the committee. I highly recommend it. It is hard to describe, but it is a very powerful project.

I wish to make a minor point on the comparison with South Africa. I agree that a system of apartheid cannot be reformed or amended. It needs to be completely dismantled. I agree with Mr. O'Gorman that in a way, we are working with the same formula that was applied to apartheid in South Africa, namely, international pressure and sanctions from outside, coupled with support for peaceful resistance from inside. It is a very crucial formula. It still holds. The only addition here, as Mr. O'Gorman has said, is that we have this mechanism of international justice, through the ICC, available to us. There is a open investigation. We want the office of the prosecutor to include an investigation into the crime against humanity of apartheid. We also have universal jurisdiction. We think it is a very important tool that needs to be mobilised. We did not see apartheid litigated in South Africa. We want to see it litigated here. International justice mechanisms are key when it comes to dismantling Israel's system of apartheid against Palestinians.