Mr. Paul Reid:

-----and, as anybody who has been involved in any change management in their lives would say, that was not the time to do probably one of the biggest restructures that the State has ever gone through. I make no apologies. The time was not right to do that.

Specifically, in relation to IFMS, I will make a few points. I cannot talk about 17 years ago. What I can talk about are the past two and a half years. Thanks to the Department, the Minister and the Government, we secured €82 million to deploy an IFMS. It is quite a complex system. It will be rolled out. The design phase has been worked on throughout the last year. We have had issues with the systems integrator that we are in discussions with about termination. We are going to procurement for a further systems integration. However, the process is continuously moving on seamlessly. The reality of it is that approximately 80% of the total spend activity across the entire health sector will be encompassed by 2025. However, at the end of this year we will start loading financial data for the eastern region and Tusla that will go live in 2023. It is a very significant programme involving the massive design of a new IFMS. The Deputy is correct that it is a big loss that we do not have one but we have funding for it. The board is overseeing its deployment.