Mr. Paul Reid:

Can I add something briefly? The HSE has the most senior lead national directors on it, who are here with me today. They include chief operations officer, national director of community, national director for change and innovation, and national director for acute hospitals. As Mr. Watt said, based on the item presented on the day, we bring in other key leads.

The core of today's discussion is on governance and structures. I have been involved in reform, restructuring and realignment across my career. It works best where the senior team owns it, is responsible and designs and drives it. That is a model we have, if we get the space and time to make it work.