Matt Carthy (Cavan-Monaghan, Sinn Fein) | Oireachtas source

That is an important point. I wish to address Mr. Keane on the broader question but also on a question that I was going to put to Mr. McCabe. Anyone can answer it, actually. Is anyone who is on this call or in the room confident that, on our current trajectory, the target of eliminating TB by 2030 will be achieved? Can it be achieved at all without a cattle vaccination programme that works?