Oireachtas Joint and Select Committees
Thursday, 10 February 2022
Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Implementation of the Good Friday Agreement
Engagement with Co-operation and Working Together
Mr. Damien McCallion:
In terms of the immediate impact, I might ask Mr. Guckian to comment as well on the educational side. CAWT is not a statutory body so we do link into the North-South Ministerial Council, but we exist on the basis of collaboration, so it is about the partnerships between people and the EU programmes give us a certain structure. In one way, we can operate to an extent, although I will not say independently, on some of the wider issues. We try to focus on what we need to do on the ground and we work through the projects and programmes with the SEUPB, which is separate to the North-South Ministerial Council, albeit the policy direction that is set out for PEACE PLUS or INTERREG is determined in conjunction with the two Departments and other stakeholders, voluntary groups and community groups.
Of the projects that we have, a significant proportion of them involve community groups, so although the projects are being run through the statutory providers, the HSE or the trusts, we will then subcontract out a lot of the work, for example, as Mr. Forbes said, some of the community health and well-being projects or mental health projects involve working with community groups and sometimes that will take away the burden of all the overheads that come with some of the complexity around the EU programmes and projects. While the more conducive the environment is, the easier it is to operate in, notwithstanding that, even where there are challenges in the wider political environment, our focus is just on the services on the ground and those collaborations between the various partners and delivering the projects. In some ways, we try to get on with that. We also look at where there are opportunities. I referred earlier to measures such as on indemnity, which facilitate cross-Border working.
I cannot pretend to be an expert on the educational and psychology side. Again, it would be outside our remit, but where these issues can surface for is if we had a project, for example, that impacted on that, we might take on the challenge of trying to work with the various Departments or groups to look at resolving issues to make it work, like we did on indemnity, for example, to ensure medical practitioners and others could work in both jurisdictions, and similarly a licence for ambulance staff, as Mr. Forbes will be familiar with. To be honest, it is not a particular one that we have come across. Perhaps Mr. Guckian wants to comment on that as well or on the wider issue of education.
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