Mr. Damian Ginley:

It is all running in tandem. Both SIPTU and Fórsa are engaging nationally in respect of section 39 organisations and trying to improve the pay issues but we are being met with resistance. Unfortunately, unless a principled position is adopted by the Government, as Mr. Donnelly alluded to earlier, we will continue to be chasing organisations. The impact of that is that the good people will move on. They will vote with their feet and move elsewhere.