Mr. Damian Ginley:

In private and not-for-profit sectors, travel is not included. For example, I could see eight clients today and each client may take 30 minutes but the time taken to travel between client A and client B is not included in many organisations. However, the Labour Court assisted in determining travel being included as part of the working week. In the public service that is now established, so staff get recognition for the amount of time they are spending working. Going back to the race to the bottom concerns we have, our carers were offered contracts with clients that may have been only 30 minutes or 15 minutes in duration but the time spent travelling between those appointments was not included in the working day, creating major challenges for our members in those sectors. I am thankful that in the public service we have progressed.