John McGuinness (Carlow-Kilkenny, Fianna Fail) | Oireachtas source

I take the Taoiseach's point about organisations in the State not dealing with some of these problems immediately and constructively giving people the opportunity to state their case. It then escalates into some sort of a demand for a commission or a State investigation. There are so many agencies and Departments that if they were actually told to engage and sort out the cases, they might not get as far as they do. My point about Shane O'Farrell and Grace is that there was no explanation and there is no method by means of which these offices can give an understanding to people who are close to the cases as to why, generally, they did not proceed. The State needs to learn from that and from what people such as Lucia O'Farrell have articulated about the justice system in general. The investigation might not get to the end of everything but surely there is a way of dealing with human beings in a different way from how they are being dealt with now and thus preventing further demands of one kind of another for investigations and allowing people to go on with their lives.