Oireachtas Joint and Select Committees

Wednesday, 9 February 2022

Committee on Budgetary Oversight

Indexation of Taxation and Social Protection System: Discussion (Resumed)

Photo of Neasa HouriganNeasa Hourigan (Dublin Central, Green Party) | Oireachtas source

Before we begin, I wish to explain some limitations to parliamentary privilege in the practice of the Houses as regards references witnesses may make to other persons in their evidence. The evidence of witnesses physically present or who give evidence from within the parliamentary precincts is protected pursuant to both the Constitution and statute by absolute privilege. However, today's witnesses are giving their evidence remotely from a place outside the parliamentary precincts and, as such, may not benefit from the same level of immunity from legal proceedings as witnesses who are physically present. Witnesses are again reminded of the long-standing parliamentary practice that they should not criticise nor make charges against any person or entity, by name or in such a way as to make him, her or it identifiable, or otherwise engage in speech that may be regarded as damaging to the good name of the person or entity. Therefore, if their statements are potentially defamatory with regard to an identifiable person or entity, they will be directed to discontinue their remarks. It is imperative that they comply with any such direction.

Members are reminded of the long-standing parliamentary practice to the effect that they should not comment on, criticise or make charges against any person outside the Houses or an official either by name or in such a way as to make him, her or it identifiable. I remind members of the constitutional requirement that they must be physically present within the confines of Leinster House in order to participate in public meetings. I will not permit members to participate where they are not adhering to the constitutional requirement. Therefore, any member who attempts to participate from outside the precincts will be asked to leave the meeting. Masks should continue to be worn by those present when not addressing the committee. I will remind members of this if necessary.

Today, we are engaging with representatives from the Institute for Fiscal Studies in the UK. The committee has agreed to examine indexation of the welfare and taxation system and has scheduled a series of public meetings on the topic. We intend to discuss several areas of interest, which include, but are not limited to, the rationale for indexation, the creation of an indexation system, the operation of that system and the impact of indexation on a budgetary sustainability cycle. Today is our third meeting on indexation. On behalf of the committee I welcome Mr. Paul Johnson, the director of the Institute for Fiscal Studies in the UK. Today's meeting is scheduled to finish no later than 7.30 p.m. I thank Mr. Johnson for his time. I am sure he is very busy.

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