Matt Carthy (Cavan-Monaghan, Sinn Fein) | Oireachtas source

Just to clarify, I agree entirely with the principle that if this equipment is being used it should be grant-aided in the same way as other environmental measures are grant-aided, regardless of somebody's occupation as such. I am just trying to figure out how the Government could provide grant aid if TAMS is not an option in the future. There was one comment in Mr. Moroney's statement that we would be challenged on were we to bring it to the Department. He said that there is significant evidence that many of the machines that are being grant-aided currently through TAMS are not working and will not be worked. Essentially, he is saying that there is significant evidence that farmers are drawing down grant aid for machines that they are then leaving in the shed. Where is that significant evidence?