Mr. Odran Reid:

It is difficult to do if it is one-off. If one is doing it in an area, it is a collaboration between the local authority and perhaps a number of developers, or it could be the local authority itself. That urban renewal piece would be very important. One area I constantly look at is Capel Street, which has a lot of vacancy above. It is one of the more dynamic streets and it is looking at potentially being pedestrianised or close to pedestrianisation. That urban framework can be really important. It becomes a little more difficult to do that with a one-off.

To refer back to the design for apartments, we keep going back to universal design. I am not sure that we must have universal design for some of the retrofitting we do over some shops. That is probably quite controversial for some people, and it is not that I am against people with disabilities, but sometimes we must look at what we have in terms of the cost and the capacity to be able to do some of this stuff. Likewise, if one has universal design in the buildings, one does not have it on the footpaths outside, as you quite rightly said. It can be a very alien environment for people. The real difficulty with this is that sometimes in some of the places we want to put people in terms of creating a dynamic, particularly in a city area, there are noise levels at night. Things like good insulation and a range of different things become critically important. Parks are also important. When we are talking about accommodation and retrofitting in city areas, we have to be able to put spaces for people who want to enjoy the urban environment as well.