Jennifer Carroll MacNeill (Dún Laoghaire, Fine Gael) | Oireachtas source

Excuse me for interjecting and I only do that because of time constraints. There is a huge focus in the RTÉ materials on the €65 million and how much RTÉ needs that. There is a cost-saving project of €60 million, which is important, yet in the RTÉ materials, beyond the realisation of non-evasion of licence fees as being plan A, I do not see a plan B or a plan C. Maybe it is happening but I do not see efforts to consolidate production staff, or a serious move out of Donnybrook to periphery centres, as other television stations have done, or co-ordinating with other production facilities to try to consolidate costs on that side while maintaining editorial difference. Does RTÉ really still need RTÉ 2 or can it change the model entirely to protect RTÉ 1 as an entirely publicly funded channel with no ads? There does not seem to be a plan B or a plan C. I am worried about the implementation of the cost-saving mechanisms, which are nearly equivalent to the difference in the licence fee. I wonder what plan B is.