Mr. Paul Price:

With regard to the initial framing of the question I totally understand that some people might be listening to this and thinking this is all very grim. It is grim looking backwards but that does not mean it has to be grim looking forwards. Over the last three or four years we have had the Fridays for Future protests and some other big protests and awareness has been raised. On the physical side, we have seen impacts playing out around the world quite badly in the last couple of years and there has been a real waking up to this issue. Positivity comes from action and facing up to reality. If we can face up to reality and be positive about doing this then we can do it. The point being made is that we have not tried. We have not really tried, certainly in the richer countries. It is about trying and achieving. Senator Pauline O'Reilly mentioned iterative achievement. That is clearly important but the iterative changes in policy and policy-science interactions have to be fast enough to meet the physical challenge. Otherwise, even for the budgets that have been set, that is-----