Ms Anne Morgan:

For years, I knew that I would have to put myself out there to get information and I knew I had to appeal to those men who caused my brother’s death. I knew that I had to go to places that I definitely did not want to go to physically, never mind mentally. I had to put myself out there and into the middle of them.

In one case, I and a few of the families of the disappeared went to an ex-prisoners conference in Limavady and I was in a room with a group of men who were all ex-prisoners. They were from both sides - there were loyalists and republicans. I told my story. In that room, there were men who cried. Now when I am telling my story, I cannot believe that it is that emotive. At times I will get emotional, especially when I talk about my mother, her waiting for him and all of that.

The ex-prisoners actually were one of my keys to get into finding out where he was. I did not realise on that particular day that I was talking to men in that room - in a group format sitting around in a circle - who were going to find my brother. I did not know that. It was four years before Seamus was found. I kept asking.

I had a telephone number of a fellow whom I spoke to in 1999. I did not use that glibly. If something came up, I phoned him and asked, “What was happening here? I want to find out more.” I was not on his back as such. I sort of built up an informal relationship with him.

In 2008, I went to France with my sister, Patsy. Patsy passed away two weeks ago. Anyway, Patsy and I were there for four days and the forensic team were doing their job. At the end of the four days, they just said, “Anne, he is not here where they said he was. We cannot find him.” There were men in forensic team who were crying to me but I was so grateful for them having gone there and having done their job so well. I was in admiration of them for what their skills involved in this process. I went back to the hotel and met my sister in the room and I phoned that fella, who I had the number for, from 1999. I called him all the Bs and Fs, and Cs. All sorts of language was used.

I just had a pay-as-you-go phone in 2008. My sister Patsy said to me that during that phone call I was jumping up and down and calling him all the so-and-so's of the day for not giving me the right information. I was so annoyed with him. My phone ran out of credit and the phone call stopped. Patsy said that because of the things I said to him, he would never help me again.

After a few years, I was speaking with the ex-prisoners and decided I was going to go back to the first man I called. We met here in Newry. Ms Peake was with me that day. She told me to just speak the truth and look him straight in the eye and say what I was looking for. That is what I did. My communicating with him directly helped me. He said to Ms Peake, "You should hear the conversation me and her had in 2008 and all the things she called me". He got all the obscenities I had in my head. You would not say things like that to this fella normally, or get away with it, but he appreciated me just speaking from the heart and giving it back to him. Is that not peculiar? He said he was glad my phone ran out of money because God knows what else I was going to say to him. I had formed that relationship with him.

When Seamus was found, which was brilliant, I had another meeting with this man. I took him and the two men who were with him up to my house, into the room I am in now, and we had lunch. Then I took him to the grave. I said I did not want him going up to the grave in the dark of night or anything. I wanted to take him and I took them up. That was a big day for me because it had all started in 1985 when members of their organisation had pointed at me and said "You're dead if you speak about Seamus again; you're dead if we ever hear anything more about him." I was under the threat of death for all those years and as far as I was concerned, it was not lifted until Seamus was found. Communication is the key to this.