Oireachtas Joint and Select Committees

Wednesday, 1 December 2021

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport

Transport Infrastructure Ireland: Chairperson Designate

Mr. Gareth Llewellyn:

There is quite a lot in those questions. I will do my best to answer them.

When I was at Network Rail, I was as much concerned with the passenger on the train as I was with anybody interacting with the train. It does not really matter who you are; the whole purpose is to make sure those people are safe. That extended not only to understanding at what point in the year we would see broken or buckled rails or signals passed at danger, SPADs, in certain parts, but also to people's behaviour around level crossings, for example. We would have a significant number of serious incidents in which cars would deliberately circumvent the barriers at level crossings and come into contact with trains or have near misses. There is a lot of behavioural change involved there. It is very similar to being on a tram system. How do you persuade a cyclist not to cycle across or in front of a tram, for example? I have worked with those sorts of safety interventions for a chunk of my career at Network Rail. I do not make a distinction between the passenger and the people outside. They are all just as valuable.

The Senator's second question was, I think, about the N20-M20. Is that right?

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