Dr. John Gilliland:

Correct. What we have done in the first five years is to take a tier 2 sequestration factor from peer-reviewed published paper. The chief agricultural inspector mentioned tier 1, tier 2 and tier 3. Our ambition is to get to tier 3, which is exact measurements for exact farms. As a farmer, I want to know what my carbon is and whether I am improving it or reducing it. I do not like being made a pariah. Our industry is being made a pariah by the media, who are saying we are the worst in the world. However, our carbon stocks are significant. We are custodians of the nation's carbon. We are not the monsters we are being made out to be. We in Devinish want to prove that ruminant farmers have a future and a significant role in maintaining and enhancing the amount of carbon while still producing nutritious food. That has been at the core of our research at Dowth and beyond.