Éamon Ó Cuív (Galway West, Fianna Fail) | Oireachtas source

The flip side of it is that if one gets into that pension scheme for €500 a year at the same benefit as a PAYE employee who is earning €100,000 and pays 14% of that, or €14,000, into the fund, one is not doing too badly. It may be that the €38 figure is very low but that is-----