Oireachtas Joint and Select Committees

Wednesday, 17 November 2021

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality

General Scheme of the Criminal Justice (Hate Crime) Bill 2021: Discussion

Photo of Jennifer Carroll MacNeillJennifer Carroll MacNeill (Dún Laoghaire, Fine Gael) | Oireachtas source

I will answer that question because I am sensitive to my remaining time. I think effective legislation does involve convictions. Behaviour is influenced by seeing some incidents going through the courts and, hopefully, having a deterrent effect on everybody else. I do not want to have legislation through which we cannot get convictions because we have not approached it in the correct way. An incremental approach can be taken from either direction. We can take a different approach and soften it over time, particularly if we see a deterrent effect in the first instance. It is clearly inadequate to go through this in seven minutes. I totally recognise that and I will hopefully have an opportunity to come back in.

I will ask Dr. Taylor about the point he made about disability because there is something distinct there. If I have time, I will ask him about the Good Friday Agreement but perhaps that will be asked separately.

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