Mr. John Farrelly:

Consider the amount of time An Garda has used section 12 over the period of Covid. We were up to nearly 10,000 times. If there was a fully functioning authorised officer system, you would imagine the Garda would only be used as a last resort. We do not have the figures but if the figures were there and everyone was proud of them, we would be hearing them loud and clear. There are issues there. If the HSE knows all this is coming down the line, you would imagine it has been preparing for it.