Oireachtas Joint and Select Committees

Thursday, 11 November 2021

Public Accounts Committee

Business of Committee

9:30 am

Photo of Catherine MurphyCatherine Murphy (Kildare North, Social Democrats) | Oireachtas source

That is very useful correspondence. I tend to look for the small print and I did that for the table on the second page, which includes active claims and the general indemnity scheme. At the very bottom, under the table, it says that the Irish Prison Service figures include 1,852 lack of in-cell sanitation mass claims. If that is removed from the estimated outstanding liability, what would the liability then be? Does the figure of 2,399 include the 1,852 claims? I presume it does, or does the figure count it as one, as a mass claim? Can we seek clarification on that figure and ask what extent of estimated liability that the €85.82 million relates to?

On the second point, the breakdown of how much tribunals involving the NTMA, including the Moriarty, tribunal, it gives the amount claimed and the cost of claims but underneath it states the above table relates only to third-party legal costs. We need the total figure. Can we ask for that? It may be that the third-party costs are equal or more than the very large amount that we were already notified. That would be an important figure for us to look for.

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