Mr. Donal Sheehan:

It is. We wanted to simplify it. Many other people deal with breeding and efficiencies in breeding and operating a dairy farm or other farm. We concentrate on the environment and biodiversity in particular.

With the way that we look at methane, carbon sequestration or whatever else, we focus on the 10% space for nature. I always say that methane and carbon dioxide are for the scientists. If a farm was measured for methane, carbon dioxide or carbon storage, the money would go to the people who are measuring it and the administration to measure it. The farmer who needs the money to improve the habitats will get nothing. We should focus on getting everyone in Ireland up to 10% and on the stocking rate instead of on the numbers. The high stocking rate causes significant damage. We should focus on bringing the stocking rate down to a sustainable level, where there is the 10% for nature, not as much fertiliser is used, and the methane and carbon dioxide will look after themselves.