Mr. Bernard Gloster:

We are in the middle of what we are calling Tusla IRL, which is a complete conversion to our own system. That featured as part of our plans at the time of the cyberattack. It was our long-term plan but we brought it forward.

I have estimated a risk cost associated with that of between €7.5 million and €8 million. I still believe that will hold through, but we will not really know the full cost of that until the middle of 2022, when we complete it. After that, we will have two dependencies on HSE ICT, one of which is the national childcare information system. We hope to move to the next generation of that system in 2022. When we do, it will be built in Tusla, and we will be left with the SAP system for driving payroll and HR. Currently, the indicated cost of the Tusla IRL system is €8 million, and this year a cost of around €500,000 went into recovery in the first few weeks following the cyberattack.