Holly Cairns (Cork South West, Social Democrats) | Oireachtas source

I thank both witnesses for taking the time to share their experiences with us. I cannot imagine how exhausting it must be to tell another group of people about them but the insight they give us is invaluable as we try to improve the State's adherence to the UN convention. I do not think there are any words to convey the fortitude the witnesses have had to show to access services that should be automatically provided as a bare minimum.

Many of the important questions have been asked but I have one question for each witness. Mr. O'Reilly's explanation of the difference between PA and carer was useful. The PA model, whereby the person with the disability is the leader, seems like one we should aspire to for as many people as possible, where appropriate. Is this the model Mr. O'Reilly thinks we should invest in more to ensure people become as independent as possible? Should it be the default model rather than the outlier?

Senator Black asked Ms Kenny the question I wanted to focus on but I will ask an additional one. As a rural Deputy, her description of the lack of accessible public transport is familiar. She discussed the fundraising she was forced to carry out to get a suitable vehicle for her daughter. It is disgraceful that she had to do that. It shows the generosity of communities and where the State fails. We always see communities, individuals and families filling the gaps where the State fails to provide services and infrastructure. Can Ms Kenny elaborate on the importance of the accessible car and the absence of funding to help?