Mr. Bernard Gloster:

The corporate risk register before the cyberattack identified the risk level because of our dependency on the wider HSE platform and the history of that platform. That is the first thing. The second thing is that the major part of the correction is moving the majority of ICT to being hosted on Tusla's own platform, which is called Tusla IRL. The indicated cost of that between now and the middle of next year is about €8 million. That is entirely separate from the development of the next phase of the national childcare information system for which I do not have a cost yet, but that will come in 2022. As we develop more capacity and more things, we will have more costs every year.

In relation to Windows 7, Tusla has worked exceptionally hard in the years since 2017. We started with two or three ICT staff in 2017; I think we now have close to 65, moving to 100. We have the most modern versions of laptops. We have the most modern versions of connectivity that we can have through mobile phones, but because of our dependency on some parts of the HSE network we still may be dealing with older legacy systems. By the time we get everyone over to Tusla, we will have everybody on Microsoft 365, which is one of the latest versions.