Mr. Kenneth Spratt:

It is not easy, and all of us in the Department are working as best we can to try to make sure that public transport services are available to encourage people out of the car and into active travel. It is a matter of achieving, or at least pursuing as best we can, all the options available to us across active travel, whether walking or cycling, and across public transport. It is a matter of making it to a certain extent less attractive to use the car and more attractive to walk or cycle or use public transport. If walking and cycling are not suitable options for people, it is a natter of making sure that the transport services are frequent, comfortable and more enjoyable.