Mr. Eugene Cummins:

What I meant was that we rely on the Part 8 planning process to deliver Traveller-specific accommodation and units and that relies on the political will, political wishes and bureaucratic process as determined by the elected members. It is not within the gift of the chief executives to grant permission for Part 8 developments. It is down to the elected members to do so.

Returning to this matter being a complex issue, it is also a complex issue sometimes for local communities. They are asked to take on trust a new Part 8 development into their community and that everything will work out. In many instances, it does, but in others it does not. Again, the chief executives of local authorities only have certain powers. The political process and the Part 8 process are for the elected members.

On the issue of our responsibilities, we are very much aware of them and we take them seriously. I am saying it is a complex issue because other people must get involved, including social workers, care workers and the HSE. They must get involved, talk to the communities and determine how we can work together. In my case, we have a good relationship with the Travelling community. We are mindful of that and we work on it. I also went down to the-----