Mr. Kevin Callinan:

Senator Crowe mentioned schools. It is not that we have not thought about it in the way he has suggested, but in the spirit of what Margaret has just said, we need to be prepared to think bigger in the medium to long term about how we do things. Maybe it would be better if teachers were teaching over four rather than five days and giving their energy there. On the fifth day, children might not be back with their parents. Maybe we could come up with things that children could be doing that would be better for them in terms of their broader development, health and well-being. These are the kinds of issues that, over time, we can start to engage with if we embrace this idea.