Paul McAuliffe (Dublin North West, Fianna Fail) | Oireachtas source

I am not undermining in any way the work of many of these organisations. In fact, sometimes they struggle with the level of funding, in particular capital funding, that they need to grow their services. My question is whether the section 39 model benefits them, the service user or the State. I cannot see the benefit of a system which puts obstacles in the way of the State being able to act in the way it would in a more direct provision model.