Mr. Stephen Mulvany:

We have different figures. Some €38 million for consultancy is disclosed in the annual financial statements, half of which is for Covid and half of which is not. As Mr. Reid said, our aim is always to have specific deliverables and to get clear weekly details of the hours of individual consultants. We typically operate from the Office of Government Procurement, OGP, framework, which sets out four or five tiered levels reflecting the levels of individuals and their different types of qualifications. I have experience relating to the financial aspects of the private hospital agreement. We monitor that closely. In fairness to the company, a certain amount of the work at the start of the pandemic was done either pro bonoor at substantially discounted rates. For the entirety of the time we were dealing with that particular part of the private hospitals, we ensured that the rates were at or, in many cases, below the OGP framework. They were monitored every week.