Professor Gerry Boyle:

One of our specialists has just taken leave of absence. We have replaced that person and will be appointing a third specialist. In the context of the resource commitment across the board, I consider that a significant investment. The cost of taking on an additional staff member in the current climate is quite exorbitant. We also have to get sanction from two Departments to do that. I would like if we had more, of course, but we have a complement of three specialists. Consider that relative to other sectors. For example, we do not have any specialist at the moment in poultry. We have one advisor. That gives some idea of the challenges we face. I can provide the committee with the expenditure data. The data will be highly correlated with staff numbers. Roughly 80% of our cost is staff.

Dr. Ryan may have a comment on the leakage estimate. Mr. Brennan probably has a better handle on the extent to which there is leakage out of organic into conventional processing. I think he mentioned a figure earlier.