Mr. Colm O'Donnell:

On the Deputy's first point, as a stakeholder in the CAP consultation committee from the start of the process, the input of the Irish Natura and Hill Farmers Association has included making numerous submissions throughout the strengths, weaknesses, opportunities and threats, SWOT, analysis and in the development of Natura impact statement, NIS, interventions. In our latest presentations and engagement with the Department, the early indicators would be potentially positive regarding the eco-scheme. That might address Deputy Browne's question.

It is crucial that there is equal opportunity for extensive and intensive farm systems, and that they all have equal access. We will get more with a spoonful of honey than with a jar of vinegar. We need to incentivise participation by all beneficiaries. The 125,000 beneficiaries should have an equal opportunity and have measures that are tailored to the needs of the various farming systems. That is very important and would address the incubation period referred to by the Deputy.

The Deputy asked about the potential loss of funds. It appears the Department is on a good foundation and trajectory to ensure there will be no money left behind. While it is mandatory for the member states, it is voluntary for the farmer. My point to Deputy Browne is that it would need to be such that all farmers can access it equally.