Mr. Martin Fraser:

I will have another go at answering the Deputy's question. I will give her a different answer this time. If she is asking me when we make these appointments, TLAC makes appointments based on the published terms of a role. The Deputy is correct that those terms are different depending on whether it is a serving public servant or not. No decision is made by TLAC based on whether the person is from the public or private sectors. In that sense, it is not as if TLAC says that a certain person is the best person for the job but that another person would be cheaper. It does not do that and that is not how it works.