Mr. Martin Fraser:

No. By the way, it is not to say that in this case we would not have got somebody. We know who applies for these jobs. We know whether they are in the public or the private sector. We know what type of person will apply. Obviously, it is not published because we must respect the individuals' confidentiality but we do know this. In the same way, the Senator was talking to the Data Protection Commissioner who will have a good idea of the type of people she can recruit at the type of remuneration she can offer. We know that too. It is based on empirical evidence. It is not theoretical but based on actual evidence of our own experience.