Mr. Mick Clifford:

My experience in that regard is that, as was mentioned by Ms Casey in particular, most people go internally initially. My encounters with whistleblowers, so to speak, have largely occurred when they have perceived that internal efforts have failed. In one instance, for example, a person made a protected disclosure to me as a journalist on the basis that a colleague of the person had made a protected disclosure internally and not only did it not go anywhere, but the person was perceived to have been penalised. People going outside tends to be largely a last resort, unfortunately.