Gerard Craughwell (Independent) | Oireachtas source

I am sorry that the Minister of State is being dragged through this again. There is no need for me to go over my questions again. The Minister of State was doing a good job in responding to them. I am a little concerned about the Minister of State's point that we are not at war. Even if they are criminals, I do think that we are at war with them. We must be proactive as well as reactive in cybersecruity.

In my 25 years of teaching computer networks, I have seen what happens when one is forced to use a piece of legacy software.

I recall the National Gallery once had a piece of software dealing with temperature that was not compatible with Windows. It was taken out of the network so it could continue to work. If we have legacy software running big MRI machines it should not be live on the same network as machines that are properly secure. I hope the Minister of State will agree with me on this.